Manannan Mac Lir and the Isle of Man
Manannan Mac Lir is an ancient Celtic deity belonging to an Irish mystical race known as the Tuatha De Danann. It is said that he was the first king of the Isle of Man. I just learned about him this week and I find his story very interesting. He was said to be a God of many places. He was a trixter. He was a shapeshifter. He was God of the sea and the land. He had a cauldron which was said to have inspired King Arthurs Holy Grail - which of course makes us think about holy bloodlines. I'll go into a bit more about that later in this post but first I want to tell you more interesting things about Manannan the Proud.
He had a special sword and shield that made people weak. He had a self navigating ship. He had a pig that reappears as soon as you finish eating him so he could feed alot of people endlessly (not unlike Jesus's endless loaves and fishes). He had a magic horse Enbarr of the Flowing Mane who could traverse both land and sea, and was swifter than wind-speed. Manannon could put people to sleep instantly. He had a magical staff made of holly wood. He wore striped pants. He had a harp that stopped pain and gave sensations of pleasure to all who heard it. He had an herb that brought people back to life. He had a cloak of invisibility. He had a branch with three orbs resembling apples on it. He rides waves like horses. He causes storms. He created enchanted mists that hide things he is protecting. He was the creator of Fairies and Fairy Mounds. In the springtime, his followers bring him rushes and yellow flowers to show their fealty.
His lineage is said to be carried by human royals.
Since I too carry royal lineage, I wondered if I am a descendent of Manannan Mac Lir. If he was a real person and not just a story, he was said to have many sons.
Isle of Man
Ascenstry.com seems to agree that I have ancestors in the Isle of Man area. Then I went to Geni.com to see if I have relationship paths to any of the islands rulers. I don't know why I am still surprised by these things but it does appear that I am a direct descendent of the old Kings of the Isle of Man.
Researching the ancient Kings of the Isle of Man I learned about Áedán mac Gabráin, circa 540, Ruler of Dál Riata (a Gaelic kingdom that encompassed the western seaboard of Scotland and the north-eastern corner of Ireland, on each side of the North Channel. At its height in the 6th and 7th centuries, it covered what is now Argyll ("Coast of the Gaels") in Scotland and part of County Antrim in Northern Ireland.[1] After a period of expansion, Dál Riata eventually became associated with the Gaelic Kingdom of Alba.)
Áedán mac Gabráin turned out to be my 40th great grandfather on my father's side:
You
→ Carl Jossy
your father → Inez Isadora Imus
his mother → Jiles Herbert Imus
her father → Hiram M. Imus
his father → Charles Lemuel Imus
his father → Lucy Imus
his mother → Ann Buck
her mother → Abigail Gould
her mother → Thomas Disbrow
her father → Margaret Walton
his mother → Robert Cromwell of Huntingdon
her father → Sir Henry Williams, alias Cromwell, MP
his father → Richard Williams, alias Cromwell
his father → Morgan Williams
his father → William ab Ieuan, of Whitchurch
his father → Margred Kemeys, of Bagam
his mother → Crisli verch Morgan
her mother → Mallt verch Rhun
her mother → Joan verch Aron
her mother → Aron ap Hywel, of Breigan
her father → Hywel Fychan ap Hywel
his father → Hywel ap Cadwgan
his father → Cadwgan ap Bleddyn
his father → Elen verch Tudur Mawr
his mother → Tudur Mawr ap Cadell
her father → Elinor verch Gwerystan
his mother → Nest ferch Cadell
her mother → Cadell ap Brochwel
her father → Brochwel II ap Aeddan II, Lord of Powys
his father → Aeddan II ap Selyf I
his father → Selyf I ap Brochwel I, King of Powys
his father → Brochwel I ap Aeddan I
his father → Aeddan I ap Cyngen
his father → Cyngen ap Brochwel
his father → Brochwel ap Elisedd
his father → Elisedd ap Gwylog
his father → Gwylog ap Beli, Brenin Powys
his father → Beli ap Eiludd
his father → King of Powys Eiludd ap Cynan
his father → Gwynwenwen ingen Domangart, o Dál Riata
his mother → Domangart mac Áedán, Rí na Dál Riata
her father → Áedán mac Gabráin, Rí na Dál Riata
his father
The following is taken from an Internet posting of Michael R. Davidson of Edinburgh. Scotland, on 23 Oct 1995:
Aedan mac Gabran Aedan succeeded to the kingship upon his cousin Conall's death in 574. There is an entertaining story in Adomnan's _Life of Columba_ which relates how Columba would have preferred to support Eoganan as king.
According to the life, an angel commanded Columba three times to support Aedan, and Columba did not relent until the angel struck him with a scourge. In 575 Aedan attended the Convention of Druim Cett in Ireland, which apparently convened to decide the political relationship between Dal Riata and the kings of the Northern Ui Neill in Ireland, whose power was growing.
In 581 he led an expedition to the Orkney islands, and he won a victory at the Isle of Man in the following year. In 590, he won a battle against the Maetae, his British neighbours, but lost two of his sons in the battle. In 596, in the first battle between Scots and English, two more of his sons were slain. In 600, he lead an army against the English of Northumbria, but was decisively defeated at Degsastan. He was victorious in a battle against the Picts sometime between 596 and 606. He died, at the age of seventy-four according to the annals, in 606, and was succeeded by his son Eochaid Buid. The _Senchus_ notes that he fathered seven sons, but other sources tell of two others, Artur and Domangart. Children: 1. *Eochaid Buid. 2. Eochaid Find, killed 590. 3. Tuathal. 4. Bran, killed 596. 5. Baithine. 6. Conaing, drowned 622. 7. Gartnait. (The same Gartnait that was king of the Picts and died in 599?) 8. Artur, killed 590. 9. Domangart, killed 596.
My relationship to this ancient King could be a coincidence. After all, many lands were sacked and new Kings appointed. So I kept digging to see if I was related to any of the other Kings of the Isle of Man.
I came across Duncan the 1st, King of Scotland who inspired Shakespeare's MacBeth. He turned out to be my 26th Great Grandfather.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_I_of_Scotland
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Duncan I, King of Scots is your 26th great grandfather:
You → Carl Jossy
your father → Inez Isadora Imus
his mother → Jiles Herbert Imus
her father → Hiram M. Imus
his father → Charles Lemuel Imus
his father → Lucy Imus
his mother → Ann Buck
her mother → Abigail Gould
her mother → Thomas Disbrow
her father → Margaret Walton
his mother → Robert Cromwell of Huntingdon
her father → Sir Henry Williams, alias Cromwell, MP
his father → Frances Cromwell
his mother → Sir Thomas Mirfyn, Lord Mayor of London
her father → George Mervin, of Cambridgeshire
his father → Joan Mervyn
his mother → Katherine Hungerford
her mother → Sir Thomas Peverell, Kt., of Park Hamitilly
her father → Sir Hugh Peverell, Kt.
his father → Margaret Peverell
his mother → Walter de Cornwall
her father → Richard, 1st Earl of Cornwall
his father → John I "Lackland", King of England
his father → Henry II "Curtmantle", king of England
his father → Empress Matilda
his mother → Matilda of Scotland
her mother → Malcolm III, 'Canmore', King of Scots
her father → Duncan I, King of Scots
his father
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I also found Godfred II Crovan, King of Man, Dublin & the Isles who turned out to be my 29th great grandfather on my mother's side:
Godred Crovan (died 1095), known in Gaelic as Gofraid Crobán, Gofraid Meránach, and Gofraid Méránach,[note 1] was a Norse-Gaelic ruler of the kingdoms of Dublin and the Isles. Although his precise parentage has not completely been proven, he was certainly an Uí Ímair dynast, and a descendant of Amlaíb Cúarán, King of Northumbria and Dublin.
Godred first appears on record in the context of supporting the Norwegian invasion of England in 1066. Following the collapse of this campaign, Godred is recorded to have arrived on Mann, at the court of Gofraid mac Sitriuc, King of the Isles, a likely kinsman of his. During the 1070s, the latter died and was succeeded by his son, Fingal. Within the decade, Godred violently seized the kingship for himself, although the exact circumstances surrounding this takeover are uncertain. By 1091, Godred attained the kingship of Dublin, and thereby secured complete control of the valuable trade routes through the Irish Sea region. Godred's expansion may be further perceptible in the Clyde estuary and Galloway, and may well have forced the English to consolidate control of Cumberland in an effort to secure their western maritime flank. Godred appears to have drawn his power from the Hebrides; and archaeological evidence from Mann reveals that, in comparison to the decades previous to his takeover, the island seems to have enjoyed a period of relative peace.
During his reign, Godred appears to have lent military assistance to Gruffudd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd, a probable kinsman, who was then locked in continuous conflicts with Welsh rivals and encroaching English magnates. The earliest known Bishops of the Isles date from about the time of Godred's reign, although it is almost certain that earlier ecclesiastes held this position. It may have been just prior to Godred's accession in the Isles, whilst Dublin was under the ultimate control of Toirdelbach Ua Briain, King of Munster, that Dublin and the Isles were ecclesiastically separated once and for all. Godred's rule in Dublin came to an abrupt end in 1094 with his expulsion at the hands of Muirchertach Ua Briain, King of Munster, a man who may have even driven Godred from Mann as well. Documentary evidence reveals that the last decade of the eleventh century saw an upsurge in plague and famine. According to Irish sources, one quarter of Ireland perished from pestilence in 1095 alone. One of the fatalities was Godred himself, who died on Islay, an apparent power centre in the Isles.
Godred's greatest impact on history may have been his founding of the Crovan dynasty, his patrilineal descendants who ruled in the Isles for almost two centuries. Godred was an important maternal ancestor of Clann Somairle, a family that held power in the Isles centuries after the final extinction of the Crovan dynasty. As such, he may be identical to Gofraid mac Fergusa, an apparent genealogical construct claimed as a Clann Somairle ancestor. Godred may well be identical to the celebrated King Orry of Manx legend, a figure traditionally credited with instituting the Manx legal system. Godred and King Orry are associated with numerous historic and prehistoric sites on Mann and Islay. - wikipedia
Godfred II Crovan, King of Man, Dublin & the Isles is your 29th Great Grandfather:
→ Verla Rae Jossy
your mother → Helen King Wilson
her father → Orville William King
his father → Eliza King
his mother → Charles Fox
her father → Henry Fox
his father → Susannah Fox
his mother → Capt. Silvanus Griswold
her father → Capt. Benjamin Griswold, II
his father → Elizabeth Griswold
his mother → Elizabeth Drake
her mother → Capt. Daniel Clark
her father → Elizabeth Clark
his mother → Rev. Valentine Overton, Archdeacon of Derby
her father → Margaret Overton
his mother → Bishop of Chichester William Barlow
her father → Lady Christian Barley, of Albury Hall
his mother → Anne de Colville
her mother → Robert de Colville, 9th Laird of Oxnam
her father → Margaret Lindsay, of Crawford
his mother → Sir James Lindsay of Crawford, II
her father → Sir James de Lindsay of Crawford
his father → Mary Abernethy
his mother → Alexander Abernethy of that Ilk, Governor of Dundee
her father → Máire de Eógain
his mother → Ewan MacDougal, Lord of Lorn
her father → Duncan MacDougall, 2nd of Dunollie and of Lorn, King of the Isles
his father → Dougal MacRory, 1st of Dunollie and of Lorn
his father → Ragnhildr Óláfsdóttir, of Man
his mother → Olaf I "Morsel", King of Man & the Isles
her father → Godfred II Crovan, King of Man, Dublin & the Isles
his father
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We can find some of these Ancient Irish Tuatha Dé Dannan kings of Ireland such as Tech- baoithin, Baithen, Baithin, Baithan, Baetin, Baitan Mor (“Baithen the Great”), Boythan, Bothan, Bathan, Baeda, and Baedan.
He was also called Mogue or Modoc (Mo-Aedh-og), “the beloved Aidan’” who was Áed mac Ainmuirech high-king of the Northern Uí Néill circa 528
Aidan Mac Ainmuire, High King of Dalraida is your 43rd great grandfather
You
→ Carl Jossy
your father → Inez Isadora Imus
his mother → Jiles Herbert Imus
her father → Hiram M. Imus
his father → Charles Lemuel Imus
his father → Lucy Imus
his mother → Ann Buck
her mother → Abigail Gould
her mother → Thomas Disbrow
her father → Margaret Walton
his mother → Robert Cromwell of Huntingdon
her father → Sir Henry Williams, alias Cromwell, MP
his father → Richard Williams, alias Cromwell
his father → Morgan Williams
his father → William ab Ieuan, of Whitchurch
his father → Margred Kemeys, of Bagam
his mother → Crisli verch Morgan
her mother → Mallt verch Rhun
her mother → Joan verch Aron
her mother → Aron ap Hywel, of Breigan
her father → Agnes de Cantilupe
his mother → Eva de Braose
her mother → Eva Marshal, Baroness Abergavenny
her mother → Isabel de Clare, heiress of Pembroke
her mother → Eva of Leinster, Countess Of Stirgoil
her mother → Dermot II MacMurrough, King of Leinster
her father → Enna Mac Donnchad, King of Leinster
his father → Donnchad mac Murchada, King of Leinster and Dublin
his father → Sabd Ingen Mac Bricc
his mother → Muirchertach Mac Bricc
her father → Brecc
his father → Artt Corp Na Munster of The Deisi
his father → Faelan Mac Cormac
his father → Gormlaith Ingen Flann Sinna
his mother → Gormlaith ingen Flainn mac Conaing, Princess of Brega
her mother → Flann Mac Conaing, King of Brega
her father → Unknown ingen Niall
his mother → Niall Caille
her father → Áed Ordnidhe mac Néill, Ard-rí na h'Éireann
his father → Niall Frossach mac Fergail, Ard-rí na h'Éireann
his father → Fergal mac Maele Duin, Ard-rí na h'Éireann
his father → Cacht Ingen Cellaig
his mother → Cellach mac Máele Coba, High King of Ireland
her father → Máel Coba mac Áedo, High King of Ireland
his father → Aidan Mac Ainmuire, High King of Dalraida
his father
Does the fact that both my Mother and my Father are RH- and they both are direct descendants of the royals of Ireland, Scotland and England mean that we are related to Manannan Mac Lir? I'll let you know as soon as I develop super powers!
For more about ancient Celtic history:
https://gnosticwarrior.com/tuatha-de-dannan.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuN5rf0CoI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=979SRToI0PM&list=WL&index=3&t=348s
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